September 2003 - March 2007 News from the All About Pine page

As I mentioned in my previous four posts, I'm cleaning up my web pages. Here are the News items that used to be listed on All About Pine: POP, IMAP, NNTP, & ESMTP Client for Unix, MS Windows, and Mac OS X.

These Pine-related news items are displayed only on the permalink for this item.



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2007 March 12 On this page, added Wish #1: Feed Wishes.

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2007 March 2 The University of Washington (UW) released Alpine 0.83, Pico 4.93, Pilot 2.99, UW IMAP Toolkit imap-2006f,
and mailutil 2006f.6 for αlpha testing. To learn about the Alpine Message System, which is basically Pine 5.0, and to help test it, see the UW Alpine Information Center.

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2007 March 2 SeaMonkey Suite 1.1.1 released. The SeaMonkey Suite IMAP client is a nice complement to Pine and I discuss it below in SeaMonkey Suite and Thunderbird versus Pine. I've written about why I use SeaMonkey Suite in SeaMonkey Suite 1.0.1 and Send This Page in my blog, and in Re: Seamonkey mail vs Thunderbird in the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.

Note: SeaMonkey Suite 1.1+ supports many (maybe infinitely many?) IMAP keywords. IMAP Keywords are discussed in Setting Up Keywords (Labels) on the Power Pine page.

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2007 January 30 In my blog, I posted an item titled Building and Installing Alpine (Apache-Licensed Pine).

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2006 December 6 The University of Washington won a $100,000 Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration (MATC) “for the development and support of IMAP/PINE email tools.” To learn more about this, see MATC 2006 Winners Announced, MATC Winners 2006, and UW a Recipient of the First Annual Mellon Awards for Technology Collaboration. Congratulations to the Pine Team!

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2006 November 24 On the Power Pine page, added a section titled Privacy Configuration Settings.

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2006 November 19 At Slashdot, there is a discussion about Eduardo Chappa's Patches For Pine Going Away. As usual, some Slashdotters are commenting without reading the referenced page (which is mirrored here).

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2006 September 20 and 25 Cyrus Daboo released Mulberry 4.0.6 and I posted a blog item titled One-Click Tagging in Mulberry. If you would like to really understand IMAP or IMAP keywords (which are discussed on the Power Pine page), I highly recommend that you use Mulberry as one of your IMAP clients. Mulberry is an excellent complement to Pine and I discuss it in IMAP Arena 1: Mulberry versus Pine below.

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2006 August 20 Mulberry, which is a very good cross-platform email and calendar client, is now free/gratis and version 4.0.5 has been released. This is great news for IMAP users, especially if you use IMAP keywords (discussed on the Power Pine page), LDAP address books, or the Sieve filtering language. Mulberry is an excellent complement to Pine and I discuss it below in the section IMAP Arena 1: Mulberry versus Pine. I discuss the trend towards making software free (both gratis and libre) in my Deflexion.com blog in the item Freeing the IMAP Clients.

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2006 August 18 On the Power Pine page, updated the sections Using the Incoming-Folders Collection (aka Pine Shortcuts) and Using Pine's incoming-archive-folders Variable. I also started a discussion thread in gmane.org.infiniteink about Understanding Pine incoming-folders and incoming-archive-folders. Please join the discussion if you have any questions or comments about Pine incoming folders.

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2006 August ~2 The University of Washington (UW) launched the Alpine Information Center. Alpine is the name of the upcoming Apache-Licensed Pine and includes Unix, Mac OS X, & MS-Windows desktop versions of Pine, and a web-based version of Pine (formerly known as WebPine). I discuss the history of, and problems related to, the current Pine license in the section Free/Libre Open Source Software and Pine below. I discuss the trend towards making software free (both libre and gratis) in Freeing the IMAP Clients at Deflexion.com.

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2006 June 19 On the Power Pine page, added a section called Using a Shell Script to Launch Pine.

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2006 June 9 MacOSXHints.com has a poll about What's your favorite email application? Check out the discussion and the poll results (currently ~1% of the votes are for Pine). And vote!

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2006 June 7 If you use Pine on Mac OS X, check out today's Deflexion.com blog item, which is titled Clicks, Colors, and Speed in Terminal and iTerm. This discusses why I run Pine in Terminal rather than iTerm, and includes some useful Mac Pine tips. Related Mac Pine tips are in Mac url-viewer tips on the Power Pine page.

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2006 May 17 In my blog, I posted an item titled Server-Side Message Labels, which describes how I use labels to help me manage my email. I discuss how to use labels in Pine in Setting Up Keywords (Labels) on the Power Pine page.

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2006 May 11 Mark Crispin posted a message to gmane.mail.imap.uw.c-client message in which he said:
“imap-2006 will be a major update... There's a major update to Pine in progress as well. The two will be released together, as has been our practice for the past several years.”

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2006 May 6 On the Power Pine page, updated the Collection Tips section so there is now an explanation of how Pine represents directory names and dual-use names (aka hybrid folders). A dual-use name is a single name that is used for both a mailbox and a directory.

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2006 February 26 In Reading From Multiple News Servers on the Power Pine page, added information about how you can use Pine and the Genecast NNTP server to read feeds, including my del.icio.us bookmarks feed.

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Starting 2006 February 23 In comp.mail.pine, there is a discussion titled Do people still use Pine? This thread includes more than 35 messages -- don't be shy about posting your thoughts!

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2006 February 4 On the Power Pine page, updated Fun with Color and Kolor so it now includes a subsection called Index Color Rule and Virtual Mailbox Example. The new subsection includes:

  1. an example index color rule, which I use to color solicited-bulk-email messages blue on my Pine MESSAGE INDEX screen, and
  2. instructions for creating a “virtual mailbox” of messages that match this rule.

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2006 January 23 In my Deflexion.com blog, I posted a blog item titled IMAP Tip: Use a backup-all mailbox. A backup-all mailbox has many uses, including providing an easy way to have an instance of Pine notify you about all your new (RECENT) incoming messages and a good place to experiment with and learn about Pine saved searches (virtual mailboxes). Details are in the blog item.

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2005 December 16 In comp.mail.pine, Chris Game posted a message in which he said:
Every time I've tried to read through [the Power Pine page] in search of some useful tips, I've lost the will to live well before the end!
I know that that page and this page (which are both more than ten years old BTW) are overwhelming and out of control, and I plan to move them — and all the Infinite Ink pages — into a searchable modularized groovy wiki in 2006. I hope we can all maintain the will to live until then! (:-))

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2005 November 28 In comp.mail.pine, I posted instructions for installing the UW pre-built pine-bin.osx-10.4.Z on Mac OS X Tiger. If you want to build Pine yourself, for example if you want to use a PASSFILE or if you are using a system for which there is no pre-built binary, see the Build Tips in Using a PASSFILE with Unix and Mac Pine on the Power Pine page.

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2005 November 25 As I announced in a blog post titled Turning on Comments or My Own Private Usenet, I have enabled comments in my Deflexion.com blog. Your comments are welcome!

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2005 September & August On this page, added Wish #1: List the Relevant INBOX in every IMAP FOLDER LIST and 4 [New!] wishes to the Miscellaneous Pine Wishes below.

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2005 September 28 As announced here, the University of Washington (UW) released Pine 4.64, Pico 4.10, Pilot 2.0, and UW IMAP Toolkit version 2004g. To see what's new and to download the Pine Message System, go to washington.edu/pine/changes/4.63-to-4.64.html.

Important: Because of a buffer overflow problem in earlier versions of UW IMAP and Pine, it is recommended that everyone upgrade to UW IMAP 2004g+ and Pine 4.64+.

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2005 August 25 In the Gmail Tips section of the Power Pine page, I added a tip about how to “bounce forward” (redirect) archived messages to Gmail. Now that Gmail lets users customize the 'From:' address in outgoing mail, many people, e.g. Jeremy Zawodny (but not me), are switching to Gmail.

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2005 August 19

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2005 July 30 - April 4 Eduardo Chappa posted a Pine Tip of the Day. These tips are available via the web (HTTP) or via a web feed (RSS/XML).

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2005 July 2 On the Power Pine page, added Step 6A, which is about the default-fcc variable, and combined Steps 6B & 6C into Step 6C.

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2005 June 26 On the Power Pine page, added a tip to the Speeding Up Pine section. This new tip is currently #28 and is especially useful if you have a slow connection to the Net and run Pine remotely in an ssh window. This tip includes a sample slowpine alias that you can use to launch Pine when you have a slow connection.

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2005 June 1 On the Power Pine page, added a section called Using the Rename Command to Move a Mailbox.

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2005 May 8 On the Power Pine page, updated the section Using Pine's Built-In Fetch (#move) Ability so it now includes a subsection called The Metaphysics of a #move Folder: Noun or Verb?

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2005 May 2 On this page, added Wish #2: Filter Wishes. On the Power Pine page, updated the section Using a Pine Filter to Automatically Move Messages.

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2005 April 28 As announced here, the University of Washington (UW) released Pine 4.63, Pico 4.10, Pilot 2.0, and UW IMAP Toolkit version 2004e. To see what's new, go to washington.edu/pine/changes/4.62-to-4.63.html.

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2005 March 9-12 On the Power Pine page:

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2005 February 13-22 On the Power Pine page:

On the Compartmentalizing and Sharing Your Pine Configuration page, updated the...

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2005 January 18 The University of Washington (UW) released Pine 4.62, Pico 4.9, Pilot 2.0, and UW IMAP Toolkit version 2004c. This version of Pine satisfies a lot of my Pine wishes, including my (now former) #1 Pine wish and part of my #2 Pine wish, and includes a new way to check the current and stay-open mailboxes for recent messages.

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2005 January 17 On the Power Pine page, added a section called Bugs and Debugging.

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2005 January 4 On the Power Pine page, I updated the section called Using the incoming-folders Collection. While updating this section, I realized that:
You can think of your Pine Incoming Folders as your Pine Bookmarks or Favorites or Daily Reads.
And I added that bit of insight to the Incoming-Folders Tips.

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2004 November 20 On the Power Pine page, I added a section called POPping Gmail is Different. This describes how I use Pine to move a copy of my Gmail messages to an IMAP server and lists five ways in which Gmail is different from other POP service providers.

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2004 November 10 In the article Google Brings E-Mail Client Access to Gmail, Matt Hicks said that today (Nov. 10) Google “began providing free POP3 (Post Office Protocol 3) access on Gmail accounts.” I discuss using Pine with Gmail in the section POPping Gmail is Different on the Power Pine page.

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2004 October 28 Steve Hubert, a member of the Pine Team, posted a message in comp.mail.pine, in which he said that in the next version of Pine (4.62), the aggregate select command (;) will be able to select based on a pre-existing rule. This will make it possible to create saved searches or virtual mailboxes. Thank you to Gopi Sundaram for suggesting this great feature.

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2004 October 26 On this page:

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2004 October 16 On the Power Pine page:

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2004 September 28 Updated the section below called IMAP Arena 2: SeaMonkey Suite and Thunderbird versus Pine.

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2004 August 7 On the Power Pine page, added 2 important SMTP notes. One of the notes is about Sender Policy Framework (SPF), which is an extension to SMTP that helps fight email address forgery.

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2004 July 15 As announced here and here, the University of Washington released Pine 4.61, Pico 4.8, and UW IMAP Toolkit version 2004a. These include many bug fixes and new features, including:
  • quote-suppression-threshold variable, which tells Pine to hide some, all, or no quoted text in the default MESSAGE TEXT window
  • prune-uses-yyyy-mm feature, which makes Pine use a purely numeric date for a pruned mailbox name extension
  • the ability to bounce forward a message and use a role to specify the SMTP server, the Fcc mailbox, and the Resent-From header. This is useful for 1) updating remote greenlists, bluelists, and other filter-related files that are used by Procmail or Sieve running on a remote system; and 2) ensuring your bounce forwarded messages are not considered forgeries by SPF (Sender Policy Framework).
  • easier procedures for attaching or exporting multiple attachments

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2004 May 10 As announced here and here, the University of Washington released Pine 4.60, Pico 4.7, and and UW IMAP Toolkit version 2004. These include many bug fixes and new features, including:
  • support for Format=Flowed (aka f=f). For discussion about f=f, see the Editor Tips in Step 6D on the Power Pine page.
  • rendering of UTF-8 messages into the user's local character set.
  • support for piping, sending-filters, and display-filters in PC-Pine, which means that PC-Pine users are now able to use external filters such as LOAF. (Unix Pine users have been able to do this for ~10 years.)
  • support for "external categorizer commands" in rules, which means that a rule can pipe a message through an external program and have the rule's action depend on the result of the piped command.
  • support for IMAP keywords (labels). For information about IMAP keywords, see Setting Up Keywords (Labels) on the Power Pine page and this item & the the item below it in the section What to Look For in an IMAP Service Provider on the IMAP Service Providers page.
  • three new commands in mailutil: delete, rename, and prune. mailutil is a command-line tool that helps manage mailboxes. It ships with both Pine and the UW IMAP Toolkit.

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2004 March 19 Maciej Ceglowski announced that he and Joshua Schachter are working on LOAF, a GPL'd distributed-social-network filter that seems to be a robust and private way to greenlist a correspondent and limelist a correspondent (of a correspondent)n, where n=1,2,3, etc. It currently works with Procmail and Pine. (If you are a PC-Pine user, you need to wait for Pine 4.60, which will be the first version of PC-Pine that supports sending-filters; Unix Pine and Mac Pine have supported sending-filters for years.)

If you use Pine and Procmail, and would like to help find a general solution to the spam problem, I recommend that you try LOAF and participate in its development. [Del.icio.us icon] I am collecting LOAF-related links at Del.icio.us / Deflexion.com / Messaging / LOAF.

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2004 February 23 Added a section called Avoiding False Positives With Greenlists and Bluelists to my Procmail Quick Start. If you use Pine for email, you can use your Pine address books, which are discussed in this section of the Power Pine page, to create and maintain procmail-accessible greenlists and bluelists. If you want to do greenlisting entirely within Pine, you can use a Pine filter and the From or ReplyTo is in address book? condition.

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2004 February 19 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen created a graph and table of user agents posting to Gmane and Pine is #7.

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2003 December 24 In this blog item, Russell Beattie blogged about using ssh on a mobile phone and included a picture of Pine running on a mobile phone!

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2003 September 25 Heinz Tschabitscher, of email.about.com, reviewed Pine 4.58 - pinus secura and gave it a [4 out of 5 stars] rating.

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2003 September 19 and September 3 Added sections named Snagging Viruses and Using SpamAssassin to the Procmail Quick Start: An Introduction to email filtering With a Focus on Procmail.

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2003 September 15 Added four [New!] speed tips to the Speeding Up Pine section of Power Pine so there are now a total of 34 speed tips! The new tips are #4, #16, #24, and #25.

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2003 September 10 Pine 4.58 released. This version fixes two exploitable overflows that are in version 4.56 and earlier. To see what else is new, see washington.edu/pine/changes/4.56-to-4.58.html.




[Notable] The old Pine-related news items that used to be on this page are archived on my Deflexion.com blog on the page called Pre-October-2003 Deflexion & Reflexion from the All About Pine Page.

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I have been reading through your extensive material on PINE and want to thank you for taking the time document things so clearly. I think you might be the right person to ask this question to; I used PINE years ago in school, and before I left, I exported all my mail folders to text files. I am now going through the process of uploading all my old mail into gmail. So my question is this, how can I push those exported files back in some email account? I downloaded PC-Pine and I can now and read them. I also have Mercury installed on my laptop so I have a local IMAP server account... what I can't figure out is how to "push" the pine folders to the server...any ideas?
 

 

Ok - never mind, I figured it out.

1) install mozilla thunderbird
2) thunderbird will create a default mail box for you, once its open, right click to get the location on your c drive, mine was C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\3tawhtcg.default\Mail\Local Folders
3) copy your exported pine files (text files with no extension) to this folder
4) Close and reopen Thunderbird - you should see all you old PINE mail (ah the memories).
5) Create another account in Thunderbird maps to an IMAP account (i used a local one, but now gmail has IMAP)
6) copy and paste...
I will be documenting the whole process on my blog, http://www.benshoemate.com
 

 

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